VIP Rules

Rules:

-Swat 4 version 1.1 and Antics v1 (links in useful links section)

Match Rules

1- Camping and exit camping is allowed.

2- Spawn camping is not allowed.

3- Spawn raping (nading & killing) is allowed if the ViP is in the vicinity (nearby or visible). If the ViP is not in the vicinity, players can not shoot or throw granades to respawned players till 3 seconds after respawn. But if the respawned player moves out of respawn area during 3s after respawn, he can be killed or naded.

4- Cheating is strictly prohibited. Referees are advised to record a video if they are suspicious of someone's gameplay.

5- Bugging is not allowed. Gliding through a closing door, or arresting/freeing through a closed door is not considered as a bug.

6- Window shooting and double-switching is allowed.

7- ViP suicide and pre-hurting as SWAT is not allowed.

8- Double switch is allowed.

9- If a player crashes, the game continues and a substitute may fill in until the crashed player reconnects (crash must be reported)

10- Minimum 5v5. Any less at match time (+15mins) and the match is deemed a no-show. If one team brings 5 players they will be awarded an 12-0 win.
Violation of rules 2, 3, 5 and 7 will result in the round (of which the offence took place) to be forfeited to the opposing team.

11- Match format: 2 maps x 12 rounds. Round time is set to 12 mins now.

Every team has to choose different map from what his opponent chose.
In the case of an infringement of rule 4, the whole match to which the incident related will be forfeited, and in the case of a cheater, will be excluded from the tournament.

All decisions in-game will be made at the Referee's discretion.
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Winner of the match is decided by rounds. In case of a tie, a 3rd map will be played decided by elimination system.

Hmm??? you said this cup will be only RD.. Then you said it will be RD + VIP.. and now i see that it is only VIP?  w000w cool story o.OOOOOO

could we please play without losing the round by killing the vip? would be interesting...

so if a team kills vip accidentally, let the round to be repeated.. Rather determine the winner team by neutral actions if you know what i mean??

Does anyone agree?? This is shit rule!

BRAVO wrote:

3- Spawn raping (nading & killing) is allowed if the ViP is in the vicinity (nearby or visible). If the ViP is not in the vicinity, players can not shoot or throw granades to respawned players till 3 seconds after respawn. But if the respawned player moves out of respawn area during 3s after respawn, he can be killed or naded.

i got no idea what this means.. can we have a more user friendly explanation for people like me who has 0 hours of VIP experience in his 15 years of swat 4 career? o.OOO

BRAVO wrote:

6- Window shooting and double-switching is allowed.

are we serious? Double switching? lol!
window shooting?! What about foodwall?! To spawn camp and window shoot.. or what about red library ? there is no window but there are floors which look towards spawn points.. How is spawn camping disallowed but window killing/camping is allowed? Maybe permit both?

OR IF YOU CANT CHANGE RULES, DISALLOW FOODWALL AND RED LIBRARY MAPS..

SORRY IF I SOUND IGNORANT, BUT WITHOUT NO EXPERIENCE IN VIP, THESE RULES MAKE NO SENSE TO ME.. SOMEONE WITH A SENSE OF BRAIN COULD YOU PLEASE COMFORT ME? THANKS.

meyRa wrote:

could we please play without losing the round by killing the vip?  would be interesting...

so if a team kills vip accidentally, let the round to be repeated.. Rather determine the winner team by neutral actions if you know what i mean??

Does anyone agree?? This is shit rule!

That the main point to not kill vip , arrest him or escort lol
What a point to play this mod and prefire all the time. I guess like that clans can preper for couple hours games Imagine situation there is only 1 swat a live + vip and 5 suspects around. Arresting VIP is case of time so swat decide to kill vip and pretend it was accident. Do you want to reapet such a rounds ?

meyRa wrote:

Hmm??? you said this cup will be only RD.. Then you said it will be RD + VIP.. and now i see that it is only VIP?  w000w cool story o.OOOOOO

I said it VIP and RD(if teams accepted to play)

meyRa wrote:

could we please play without losing the round by killing the vip?  would be interesting...

so if a team kills vip accidentally, let the round to be repeated.. Rather determine the winner team by neutral actions if you know what i mean??

Does anyone agree?? This is shit rule!

This is how game is made, you have to check what u r shooting. And we can check if people gonna abuse the rule for their advantage. I will give u examples: 1-if suspects are close to arrest vip like just vip with 1 swat, swat can kill vip and pretend its accident then we have to reply.
2- if swat killed 4 suspects and vip is running to exit, then 1 last suspect killed the vip, we have to repeat the round. Developers of the game made it that who kill vip before being arrested for 2 mins will lose the round, we cant change this.

meyRa wrote:

BRAVO wrote:

3- Spawn raping (nading & killing) is allowed if the ViP is in the vicinity (nearby or visible). If the ViP is not in the vicinity, players can not shoot or throw granades to respawned players till 3 seconds after respawn. But if the respawned player moves out of respawn area during 3s after respawn, he can be killed or naded.

i got no idea what this means.. can we have a more user friendly explanation for people like me who has 0 hours of VIP experience in his 15 years of swat 4 career? o.OOO

BRAVO wrote:

6- Window shooting and double-switching is allowed.

are we serious? Double switching? lol!
window shooting?! What about foodwall?! To spawn camp and window shoot.. or what about red library ? there is no window but there are floors which look towards spawn points.. How is spawn camping disallowed but window killing/camping is allowed? Maybe permit both?

OR IF YOU CANT CHANGE RULES, DISALLOW FOODWALL AND RED LIBRARY MAPS..

SORRY IF I SOUND IGNORANT, BUT WITHOUT NO EXPERIENCE IN VIP, THESE RULES MAKE NO SENSE TO ME.. SOMEONE WITH A SENSE OF BRAIN COULD YOU PLEASE COMFORT ME? THANKS.

Its like BS rule of spwan, u cant shoot or nade the spwan before 3 seconds pass. but if a player run out of spwan before 3 seconds pass, other team can kill him or nade.
-Yes double switch is allowed in VIP since there is no point to disallow it and both teams can use it for their "advantage". because VIP is more balanced as suspect and swat than other modes.

meyRa wrote:

window shooting?! What about foodwall?! To spawn camp and window shoot.. or what about red library ? there is no window but there are floors which look towards spawn points.. How is spawn camping disallowed but window killing/camping is allowed? Maybe permit both?

Are u talk about VIP ? "no window in fw and Red library" those rules are for RD mode because spwans are different than VIP.\\

I hope I elaborated all your points and answered all your questions.

Memories hf.

vip mode sux bad but meh

meyRa wrote:

vip mode sux bad but meh

Vip does not suck. But this rule though yes:

7- ViP suicide and pre-hurting as SWAT is not allowed.

Why Unna ? Would like to play war when vip is hurted 5 times and first shot or sting gonna kill him. I already played such a war and it wasnt interesting when vip hide behind swat whole game and trying only take bullet instead exit. Same Vip can wait aside nearby explosion and in case of swat fail he can allways sucide. That also would be lame. This rules is just basic for this mode.

Michal wrote:

Why Unna ? Would like to play war when vip is hurted 5 times and first shot or sting gonna kill him. I already played such a war and it wasnt interesting when vip hide behind swat whole game and trying only take bullet instead exit. Same Vip can wait aside nearby explosion and in case of swat fail he can allways sucide. That also would be lame. This rules is just basic for this mode.

Not sure admin can notice every action of game (team can take still risk to hurt the vip 5 times). Logged A or SA also are advantaged...

This is why I think VIP sux. The rules make no sense, and some rules put a certain team into favor to win per round. The only way to fairly and equally judge whether a team is obeying or disobeying rules would be either that there will be 1 referee per  player (so 5 referees on 1 team and 5 referees on another team) OR every player will record the whole game, where each gameplay will be reviewed by admins later on.. Although I can't see any of these being applied, there will be many violations against the rules.. Not just this rule #3, almost half of these rules will be avoided in my honest opinion. (for example rules 2-7)

Unna wrote:

Michal wrote:

Why Unna ? Would like to play war when vip is hurted 5 times and first shot or sting gonna kill him. I already played such a war and it wasnt interesting when vip hide behind swat whole game and trying only take bullet instead exit. Same Vip can wait aside nearby explosion and in case of swat fail he can allways sucide. That also would be lame. This rules is just basic for this mode.

Not sure admin can notice every action of game (team can take still risk to hurt the vip 5 times). Logged A or SA also are advantaged...

In vip cups, only referees are allowed to be logged in, so no1 team will have adv. matches will be recorded in case anything happens. There should be 2 refs per match.
We played cups since 2014 with no prehurt rule and we faced 0 incidence of prehurt. Team who would like to try prehurt risk the round to be forfeited.

Meyra because u r new in vip doesnt mean that it sux we have played many vip cups. can u stop this general talk and complaining and refer to that rule which gives a team advantage of win ?

Well guys... some LTM's were reading the rules, we are in agreement with them and we accpet them,
Just we have 2 questions.

1. what about the chat in the war? does the chat has some rules of conduct?
2. At the end... how will we play? VIP kill restart round? or VIP kill win the other team??

Regards

LTM clan

|LTM|PIPE. wrote:

Well guys... some LTM's were reading the rules, we are in agreement with them and we accpet them,
Just we have 2 questions.

1. what about the chat in the war? does the chat has some rules of conduct?
2. At the end... how will we play? VIP kill restart round? or VIP kill win the other team??

Regards

LTM clan

1. I think u can chat in any language, just no insulting the opponent team. And no spam would be good.

2. If u kill the VIP when he is on the run, the team who kills it will lose the round.

However I have a general question which I think will add great advantage in matches. WHo picks the first map and how is it determined??? Obviously first map can determine the outcome of the game.

@Pipe, you can use chat as u wish, but better if u use team chat, spamming public chat too much is kinda annoying, also keeping the chat polite.

Its same as normal vip, killing vip before being arrested for 2 mins consider round loss for who kills him.
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@Berk
I dont rly think choosing 1st map affects match that much. But its on this system:
who says his map 1st, plays it 1st. other team will decide the side to start with (swat or suspects).

UPDATE:
Match format: 2 maps x 12 rounds. Round time is set to 12 mins now.

Every team has to choose different map from what his opponent chose