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PostSubject: Re: LOCKED: VIP Pre-hurt Rule Change   Tue Jul 15, 2014 7:51 pm

For me pre-hurt is a shame tactic, but it's easy to hurt VIP and make it seems like accident, so who can ensure that?

For SoH neither pre-hurt nor spwan camp should be allowed.
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PostSubject: Re: LOCKED: VIP Pre-hurt Rule Change   Tue Jul 15, 2014 8:12 pm

Well so maybe it is good solution to install mentioned mode and make vip health random.
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PostSubject: Re: LOCKED: VIP Pre-hurt Rule Change   Tue Jul 15, 2014 9:14 pm

the only drawback is that there is a console command which reveals your health: http://swat4news.blogspot.co.uk/2014/03/barely-known-console-commands.html

Atleast 3 teams have members who know about this command
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PostSubject: Re: LOCKED: VIP Pre-hurt Rule Change   Tue Jul 15, 2014 9:32 pm

And that is useful because...? I don't know the command but seems useless to me.
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PostSubject: Re: LOCKED: VIP Pre-hurt Rule Change   Tue Jul 15, 2014 10:17 pm

For example if you used this on MYT server which has the random health mod, you can see exactly when he has health of 50 or even 250. With a little bit of knowledge on damage a particular bullet gives, your team can prehurt you safely
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PostSubject: Re: LOCKED: VIP Pre-hurt Rule Change   Tue Jul 15, 2014 10:47 pm

I think health mod will not solve this problem for 3 reasons:
1- if health is 50% its like you give swat an official pre-hurt without any risk and all teams will avoids stinger for this reason.
2- cause of the console command, some players can know health but others can't. I see this is not fair, even if all know the command they will know vip health and we back to the same problem.
3- Its seems like playing will depend on luck !
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PostSubject: Re: LOCKED: VIP Pre-hurt Rule Change   Wed Jul 16, 2014 8:29 pm

for those who want to no pre hurt the vip go play BS ! we do that for years why should we change it now? are you afraid or what?! i see no reason to change that rule.
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PostSubject: Re: LOCKED: VIP Pre-hurt Rule Change   Wed Jul 16, 2014 9:01 pm

Ahaha, you made me laugh.
Maybe you're just afraid of no skill or idea for game? Very Happy
Sorry but your post is hilarious, generally I dont really care if this rule will stay or not, but you seem to be frustrated and do prehurt every war as if it depends on your win or lose.
At least now I know to not take nades against your team :v
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PostSubject: Re: LOCKED: VIP Pre-hurt Rule Change   Thu Jul 17, 2014 6:32 am

Yes Im afraid that cup but still didnt loose against myt since couple years Wink We played couple tournaments with different rules so np if majority will vote to allow vip hurt I will accept it. Than for sure teams have to preper game against myt with vip hide 10 min in basment (red lib). Have fun referees Wink or atleast there is other solution to add extra time after arrest vip for teams which whole game defend own respawn and rush with vip when is less than 2 min till the end round.
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PostSubject: Re: LOCKED: VIP Pre-hurt Rule Change   Thu Jul 17, 2014 8:10 am

Are you afraid or what? ROFL I thought VIP prehurt and him hiding for last 2 mins is pussy tactic sorry all I will change my vote.

#yolovipprehurtforeva
#gonnahavesomuchfun

Compare tourneys from golden SWAT era and this few prehurt tourney. I'd rather play 1 match in 2011 than 10 prehurt ones. It's just a waste of time, we can put 2 min per round immediately to save time.
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PostSubject: Re: LOCKED: VIP Pre-hurt Rule Change   Thu Jul 17, 2014 3:06 pm

Yeah, I have nothing to add there, Linux
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PostSubject: Re: LOCKED: VIP Pre-hurt Rule Change   Thu Jul 17, 2014 3:54 pm

|MYT|oo7 wrote:
for those who want to no pre hurt the vip go play BS ! we do that for years why should we change it now? are you afraid or what?!

we afraid you might kill vip prehurting, again
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PostSubject: Re: LOCKED: VIP Pre-hurt Rule Change   Thu Jul 17, 2014 6:42 pm

This discussion still not finished a day before first match...
We need some decision now. Also I want again ask for a reduction to 8 rounds per match...
I'm not willing to play 2-3 hour matches, not even to think about the referees to waste 3 hours.

(And even in end of 2012 when we played MYT vs FA, MYT didn't prehurt the VIP, nor did we; and that without having to agree on it...so its not "for years"...but I'm not surprised, as you also declined my request to not prehurt VIP in our last funwar...)
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PostSubject: Re: LOCKED: VIP Pre-hurt Rule Change   Thu Jul 17, 2014 10:55 pm

Since the DoK rep can't understand english/can't be bothered to reply, the vote stands at 5-4 in favor of changing this rule.

Therefore, this rule has been changed. VIP prehurt is henceforth not allowed. Breaking this rule = round lost. Referees are advised to remain vigilant when on SWAT-side.

However, it will remain 12 round matches because apparently the VIP is not a 'pussy' anymore, he is officially a gangster now so rounds can expect to finish quicker.
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