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PGO, shooT and other `no show` matches can be re-scheduled?
yes, all teams deserve for one more chance
59%
 59% [ 17 ]
no, they had a chance
41%
 41% [ 12 ]
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PostSubject: BS cup `no show`   Sat Sep 15, 2012 1:33 pm

Ok, i decided to check what public thinks about re-playing of `no show` matches. Below we have list of matches where one team was late/missing in one match. I saw comments that PGO and shooT teams have to have one more chance. Ofc most importan is to find best skilled team, but if I will give a chance to PGO and shooT, I will have to do it to other teams too if they will ask, so vote pls and comment pls. Needed strong arguments, trolling not. Perhaps comments will be much more value than poll.

SaD| S1F#2 02.09 14:30GMT - one team `no show`
qRage S1F#2 02.09 16:00GMT - one team `no show`
WestCoast nSiC#1 02.09 22:00GMT - one team `no show`
ICGT^ F4cK 03.09 14:30GMT - one team `no show`
BiG b2k 03.09 17:30GMT - one team `no show`
shooT PSA 06.09 16:30GMT - one team `no show
PSA PGO 06.09 23:00GMT - one team `no show`
Tpa Last Minute 08.09 16:00GMT - both teams `no show`
Seal AGL 09.09 14:30GMT - placed - one team `no show`
SaD| nSiC#1 14.09 21:00GMT - hour changed, PL servers - 1 team `no show`
(possible more)

(POLL - voting 2 days, multi choice allowed, vote cancell allowed, voting only for registered forum members). Registration on forum is locked for next 2 days, only wil be made by request on xfire or PM.
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PostSubject: Re: BS cup `no show`   Sat Sep 15, 2012 1:41 pm

If other teams want to play let him play, I do not mind.

PGO wants to play with Love, PGO not interceded no fault of their own but of force majeure.
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PostSubject: Re: BS cup `no show`   Sat Sep 15, 2012 6:06 pm

if both teams dont appear should be rematch but if one team shows and other dont shows whitout reason it shouldnt be played again
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PostSubject: Re: BS cup `no show`   Sat Sep 15, 2012 6:13 pm

lets say that they had some reasons, for example: PGO - thunderstorm (wireless internbet can be off), shooT - personal issues.

Ofc its impossible to verify thats its true or not
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PostSubject: Re: BS cup `no show`   Sat Sep 15, 2012 6:18 pm

qRage S1F#2 02.09 16:00GMT - one team `no show`

NO WAY.. We wasted enough time waiting for them, they arent on xfire from months..
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PostSubject: Re: BS cup `no show`   Sat Sep 15, 2012 6:20 pm

but if I will force to re-match PGO and shooT matches and S1F will wake up and say that were kidnaped by Afgan extremists, I will have to make S1F matches re-match too.
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PostSubject: Re: BS cup `no show`   Sat Sep 15, 2012 6:54 pm

S1F # 2 is not interceded 2 times and did not give any sign of life, so what's the problem ?
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PostSubject: Re: BS cup `no show`   Sat Sep 15, 2012 11:05 pm

I guess it should just be for the teams who really got a problem: pgo and shoot players got some problems, so I guess they have to play their matches.
Remember: you all can get problems like this, so be smarts, and specially, honests.

P.S. Pimp, the poll is bad structured... There are people who didn't show up cause they got a problem, and people who didn't show up 'cause they didn't want to. I am also seeing you want to give a chance in matches where both teams didn't show up... Come on, the only teams who are protesting for their matches are: PGO and shooT. You should just concentrate on their two matches, 'cause if not, this is a senseless poll as not everyone know what really happened in this matches (I mean PGO and shooT's matches). If I come here to vote, and I see a poll where I have to judge two teams with didn't show up in their matches, I of course would vote "no, they had a chance". Wink
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PostSubject: Re: BS cup `no show`   Sat Sep 15, 2012 11:30 pm

Q8 FRANN
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PostSubject: Re: BS cup `no show`   Sat Sep 15, 2012 11:51 pm

q8 cazzo.
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PostSubject: Re: BS cup `no show`   Sun Sep 16, 2012 8:32 am

yeah +1
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PostSubject: Re: BS cup `no show`   Sun Sep 16, 2012 10:17 am

Thx FR4NNN <3
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PostSubject: Re: BS cup `no show`   Sun Sep 16, 2012 12:58 pm

FR4NNN wrote:


P.S. Pimp, the poll is bad structured...

poll is only about PGO and shooT
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PostSubject: Re: BS cup `no show`   Sun Sep 16, 2012 1:12 pm

PimpMyGun wrote:
FR4NNN wrote:


P.S. Pimp, the poll is bad structured...

poll is only about PGO and shooT
^^ Look topic poll - PGO, shooT and other `no show` matches can be re-scheduled?
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PostSubject: Re: BS cup `no show`   Sun Sep 16, 2012 1:15 pm

till now only these 2 teams are complaining. but if next teams will say that smth important they had to do instead of playing, what difference will be?
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PostSubject: Re: BS cup `no show`   Sun Sep 16, 2012 3:08 pm

Tpa Last Minute 08.09 16:00GMT - both teams `no show`
Both teams had important things to do? And anyway, I guess that just shoot and pgo were complaining, the others don't care. I keep repeating: the poll is bad structured. It should be: PGO and Shoot have to play the match they couldn't play cause of external problems?
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PostSubject: Re: BS cup `no show`   Sun Sep 16, 2012 4:13 pm

No comment Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: BS cup `no show`   Sun Sep 16, 2012 5:51 pm

+ Razor force everyone to poll " yes " in xfire. Vote isnt good idea.
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PostSubject: Re: BS cup `no show`   Sun Sep 16, 2012 5:59 pm

No, i'll just ask to look situations and all decided to vote yes or no, is normal i ask to vote yes cuz i have right!
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PostSubject: Re: BS cup `no show`   Sun Sep 16, 2012 6:58 pm

Bummy, I guess you have voted no, right? You are not the only smart man here, people can judge by themselves. No need to write bullshits, then.
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PostSubject: Re: BS cup `no show`   Mon Sep 17, 2012 8:27 am

ok. I see arguments and voting. About voting I bet that its KATANE vs CoB well-wishers.

Same schedule problems had one of nSiC teams, but I just helped with mediation between them and SaD+qRage, both teams agreed to re-match. Also I was trying to help with mediations with Love team, but they are saying that they are busy people, same as PGO and Love team are saying that they had serious problems.

Who do I have to belive???

About re-match - still I do not see a big reason to do it. This is not FW 2vs2, just tournament. There was only 3 matches to play by every team in froup F (including PGO and shooT) it should not be hard to be 3x on time during 20 days. They did not gave any info to organizers that they can not play these days and now there are loads of spam adressed to organizers about forcing opponents to re-match.

Everything was prepared according to info from here -> http://swat4tournament.forumotion.com/t691-important-schedule-hours . Love team did not gave any info, so I had placed them in convenient hours for PGO and shooT, but PGO and shooT did not showup anyway.

It is true that Love played only 1 match and lost, but looks like they are more solid players, what is very welcomed by organizers and other players.

Decision is final.

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In final ladder I think to use similar schedule system - 10 days for free-arrange matches and 30 days for forced matches. There will be to play 11 matches by every final team, so perhaps there will be possible to:
- change availability hours during scheduled time, but changes will have to be given atleast 48h before match.
- also for 11 matches to play/team there will be 1 or 2 possibilities to re-schedule match by `no show` team in case of serious problems.
- free arrange match (as it was in eliminations) where were 2 `no show` teams.

In eliminations, where every team had to play 3-4 matches it is nonsence, where was possible to add back-up players.

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Some people can accuse me that I am making despotic decisions, so:
1) This decision was made by 3/3 current organizers and moderators (excluding Legno).
2) I am making too much work with handlig cup to not have right for despotism.
3) I have no business in being not objective according to participing teams.

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