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PostSubject: equinoX vs All Good Luck(All Good Luck WON)   Wed Aug 08, 2012 7:33 pm

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PostSubject: Re: equinoX vs All Good Luck(All Good Luck WON)   Wed Aug 08, 2012 7:47 pm

uac match id missing
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PostSubject: Re: equinoX vs All Good Luck(All Good Luck WON)   Wed Aug 08, 2012 8:14 pm

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PostSubject: Re: equinoX vs All Good Luck(All Good Luck WON)   Wed Aug 08, 2012 8:39 pm

- i dont see fps on stuss's screens

- §46 Teams are responsible for choosing their own UAC Match IDs, Players have to play Match with `stat fps` activated via console. (penalty: Match lost)

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PostSubject: Re: equinoX vs All Good Luck(All Good Luck WON)   Wed Aug 08, 2012 9:37 pm

nice we lose for a fps Very Happy


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PostSubject: Re: equinoX vs All Good Luck(All Good Luck WON)   Wed Aug 08, 2012 9:45 pm

Haters gonna hate. This stat fps rule is not needed anyway, ini hack? no it doesnt help, so who cares? They want the match...so give them the win, the no stat fps by sttus wont happen again. HE FORGOT TO MAKE STAT FPS ON MATCH, big drama.
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PostSubject: Re: equinoX vs All Good Luck(All Good Luck WON)   Wed Aug 08, 2012 10:10 pm

Hello, everyone.

I admit I´ve broken one of the tournament rules and I understand you have no reason to forgive me, but I would be really happy if admins would decide to give me one more chance. Please, consider my request and tell me if a lose is a neccessity in this situation.

Thanks. Smile

PS: Sorry, MerT. Rolling Eyes
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PostSubject: Re: equinoX vs All Good Luck(All Good Luck WON)   Wed Aug 08, 2012 10:12 pm

yea turned off stat fps gave him SUPER HAX and possibility to own with this score. -,-
I highly doubt he using removed fps cap becoase for him it will cause even more lags.
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PostSubject: Re: equinoX vs All Good Luck(All Good Luck WON)   Wed Aug 08, 2012 10:32 pm

As representative of the Swat 4 1.1 BS Tournament Staff, I will judge this Match as a Win for All Good Luck.

§46 Teams are responsible for choosing their own UAC Match IDs, Players have to play Match with `stat fps` activated via console. (penalty: Match lost)

I absolutely understand you, that you're sorry, and you say you won't do it again, but unfortunately you have broken the rules.

We all have to stick by the rules, they aren't nonsense, but they are necessary.

As participant of the Tournament I understand that this descision is very hard.
But as Staff Member i have to stick by the Rules.


All Good Luck is declared the Winner

Due to broke of rule §46 by equinoX:
§46 Teams are responsible for choosing their own UAC Match IDs, Players have to play Match with `stat fps` activated via console. (penalty: Match lost)
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PostSubject: Re: equinoX vs All Good Luck(All Good Luck WON)   Wed Aug 08, 2012 10:32 pm

What a boon party hahah. The rule is senseless anyway.....with shit pc u can have bCap and nobody will know...even if u write stat fps lol
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PostSubject: Re: equinoX vs All Good Luck(All Good Luck WON)   Wed Aug 08, 2012 10:42 pm

I would either call it Tournament than "boon party".

Anyway a rule is a rule, wether you like it or not.

And of course nobody forces you to stay at the "boon party"
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PostSubject: Re: equinoX vs All Good Luck(All Good Luck WON)   Wed Aug 08, 2012 10:47 pm

Our serious Adminos. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: equinoX vs All Good Luck(All Good Luck WON)   Wed Aug 08, 2012 10:51 pm

i think anybody of any team in match must make each other remember writing 'stat fps' before match starts.
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PostSubject: Re: equinoX vs All Good Luck(All Good Luck WON)   Wed Aug 08, 2012 10:53 pm

Rule is a Rule? i hope u know, that the rules are made by HUMANS , not by " god", the rule should have been deleted anyway.
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PostSubject: Re: equinoX vs All Good Luck(All Good Luck WON)   Wed Aug 08, 2012 11:00 pm

Agree with part about humans.
Folks, we all are humans, we all making fails and sometimes rules can be broken and faults forgiven. If you not the person who forgive... ok I cant force you to be right.
So think about this: rule is rule and maden to protect fairplay. But damn, its obvious, that noone played unfair here. This time, this rule just taking away fair and clear wictory from good guys without reason.
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PostSubject: Re: equinoX vs All Good Luck(All Good Luck WON)   Wed Aug 08, 2012 11:09 pm

rules are made by humans for humans. And they are needed at any place where we can not count for respect eachother. Can we here?

another way - we can allow FPS CAP and post modified file at forum. If not, I have to agree with Dashing and All Good Luck won.

Anyway MerTy is lucky playing this cup after being in 2 teams before. I hope that everyone will take this lesson
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PostSubject: Re: equinoX vs All Good Luck(All Good Luck WON)   Wed Aug 08, 2012 11:31 pm

Someone here does not respect other players? All was played in fair way, and you taking victory away only becoase 1 litle unnesessary in this situation thing is missed? Unnesessary becoase Sttus even cant reach 90 fps limit in cause of very bad pc. Just think: removed fps delete maximum capasity of FPS in game, but he cannot even reach this standart maximum level. Razz What is the sence of using it?

Simple example:

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[03:05] Sttus: I think bCap won´t give me a drastical advantage. Smile)) Or do you have another opinion?

http://www.xfire.com/video/4d17f6/

http://www.xfire.com/video/508be1/
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PostSubject: Re: equinoX vs All Good Luck(All Good Luck WON)   Wed Aug 08, 2012 11:37 pm

im getting angry because none of few already played matches was not played with the rules. I have no idea how on ND VIP escort cup everyone could use `fps stat` (there was rule about this)

Anyway there is no place for discusion on every match that you had good PC or bad PC. Just to remind everyone >>FROM HERE<<

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CHAPTER 5

Match System

§37 Matches will be played 2vs2 with no VIEW. If Team have any substitutes, they need to be on standby, not on Server, he can join server only when his Team Player crash/disconnect.
1) In case of Player`s game crash, game is continued and he or Player on standby have to rejoin ASAP, crash have to be reported by Team mate, after this arresting is not allowed until Player or standby Player rejoins.
2) After game crash UAC have to be started again.
3) Standby Player can join server only before new round begins or when situation in §37 1) happens.
§38 Match winner is Team which gained more points in all played rounds.
§39 Every map will be played as 2 rounds (each team will play every map 1x as SWAT, 1x as Suspects).
§40 Every Team is choosing 1 different map for Match.
§41 There is no restrictions about list of maps to be chosen.
§42 Match round duration is 15min.
§43 Every Team ich choosing Server hosted by Organizers for chosen map - 1/2 of every Match.
§44 Before any round will be started, the occurring map must be restarted.
§45 Every match will be played according to tournament schedules if they will be scheduled by Organizers >>HERE<<.
§46 Teams are responsible for choosing their own UAC Match IDs, Players have to play Match with `stat fps` activated via console. (penalty: Match lost)


CHAPTER 6

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§47 No Cheats. (penalty: Team removed from Tournament)
§48 No Bugs on purpose. (penalty: Match lost)
§49 No doubleswitch. (penalty: Match lost)
§50 No Spawn kill and Spawn nading. (penalty for Spawn Kill: Lost 1 point in current group table, penalty for Spawn Nading - Lost 3 points in current group table)
§51 All Players are obligated to use UAC3 during every Match. Every Player have to upload UAC3 screens after every Match. Blackscreens = no screens. (penalty: Match lost)

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PostSubject: think anybody of any team in match must make each other remember writing 'stat fps' before match starts.   Thu Aug 09, 2012 4:01 am

TRUE SEMAVI MY MATE PLAYER . rull is rull nothing will change need to folow rulls not just playing this is the tournament fun + its hapned before so i think they had cheats mert and his mate thats why they hide fps im talking by experience punish them admin thx bb .
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PostSubject: Re: equinoX vs All Good Luck(All Good Luck WON)   Thu Aug 09, 2012 5:48 am

1. undertaker you idiot/kid and have to grow up, what I no think you going to do soon( you still some arrogant man in the last 4 years). dont take it hard admins I just say my opinion.
2. why no make a pull about this stupid rule of stat fps most people dont want this stupid rule, who even know about this comand before this tournerment? btw if they lost by no us fps rule just give them rematch why they have to lose game vs people who dono even how to play bs cuz 1 forgot about this rule, dont forget it happen them just 1 time not 2 and not 3 times stop think you god adminstor cuz you just humans as every 1 of the people who play in this tournerment.
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PostSubject: Re: equinoX vs All Good Luck(All Good Luck WON)   Thu Aug 09, 2012 7:16 am

HELL ANGEL : first of all respect the web and your language and all pepolle her and admin 2 nd its called A RULL not STUPID RULL 3 ND ITS HAPNED BEFORE this is second if they forgive them
it will hapen againe and AGAINE . NOW ALL PLAYERS know ABOUT FPS SO ALL WILL FOLOW THE RULLS .
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PostSubject: Re: equinoX vs All Good Luck(All Good Luck WON)   Thu Aug 09, 2012 7:17 am

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§26 Bad language or bad behavior of Players at Tournament forum or Server are not allowed. List of forbidden words you can find >>HERE<<. (penalty: Lost 1 point in current group table - for Team members; Different restrictions for other Players)

Hell_Angel wrote:
1. undertaker you idiot/kid and have to grow up, what I no think you going to do soon( you still some arrogant man in the last 4 years). dont take it hard admins I just say my opinion.

F4cK team loosing 1 point on eliminations table

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2. why no make a pull about this stupid rule of stat fps most people dont want this stupid rule, who even know about this comand before this tournerment? btw if they lost by no us fps rule just give them rematch why they have to lose game vs people who dono even how to play bs cuz 1 forgot about this rule, dont forget it happen them just 1 time not 2 and not 3 times stop think you god adminstor cuz you just humans as every 1 of the people who play in this tournerment.

there was 1 month to discuss it. Noone did this
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PostSubject: Re: equinoX vs All Good Luck(All Good Luck WON)   Thu Aug 09, 2012 7:18 am

Indeed. Every1 can to forgot write 'stat fps' Why? Becouse in BS no one before played wars with any commend. I suppose it's FIRST but not LAST time peoples will make such 'mistake'.

Best solution is rematch just check score level between both teams, respect for AGL but they not deserved for free victory.. Of course rules are important but is not break up but.. but ITS FIRST TIME, it should be admonition for rest teams .
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PostSubject: Re: equinoX vs All Good Luck(All Good Luck WON)   Thu Aug 09, 2012 7:21 am

Sttus wrote:
Hello, everyone.

I admit I´ve broken one of the tournament rules and I understand you have no reason to forgive me, but I would be really happy if admins would decide to give me one more chance. Please, consider my request and tell me if a lose is a neccessity in this situation.

Thanks. Smile

PS: Sorry, MerT. Rolling Eyes

sorry Sttus, its about being consequent. if we start making exceptions, last match will be played with no UAC
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PostSubject: Re: equinoX vs All Good Luck(All Good Luck WON)   Thu Aug 09, 2012 7:29 am

ufff give them a rematch a least :d

why?
cuz this is just so easy way for teams to collect points they didnt deserve.
and this isnt really a purposly made rule break nor even serious rule break.
its really easy to forget a rule like this. just saying..
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PostSubject: Re: equinoX vs All Good Luck(All Good Luck WON)   Thu Aug 09, 2012 7:33 am

With ALl my respect Pimp My gun try to find a way you and all other admins to forgive them by playing a rematch if u can hope u ll help them thx .btw pimp my gun i need to talk to you need your xfire thx bb .
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PostSubject: Re: equinoX vs All Good Luck(All Good Luck WON)   Thu Aug 09, 2012 7:36 am

well, i get your point, i also have vision of NO SHOW and NO STAT FPS victories in this tournament unfortunatelly.

Matter is that this rule was hanged from the begin, and noone asked to change/remove it. Now instead of playing matches we start discussions that `maybe we change this`. Im quite crude about keeping rules and im angry for you all for ignorance and criticism.

You know people what critic and impotent got similar? that they know how to do it, but they can not.

Anyway we will see what to do, also I dont want endless discussion about typing STAT FPS.
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PostSubject: Re: equinoX vs All Good Luck(All Good Luck WON)   Thu Aug 09, 2012 7:47 am

PimpMyGun wrote:
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§26 Bad language or bad behavior of Players at Tournament forum or Server are not allowed. List of forbidden words you can find >>HERE<<. (penalty: Lost 1 point in current group table - for Team members; Different restrictions for other Players)

Hell_Angel wrote:
1. undertaker you idiot/kid and have to grow up, what I no think you going to do soon( you still some arrogant man in the last 4 years). dont take it hard admins I just say my opinion.

F4cK team loosing 1 point on eliminations table


really, you really not so smart person if you remove to my team 1 point by my opinion just ban me from this tournerment if you dont like what I say. better for all no? I mean in end I dont care from this tournerment after I see your move in every topic,but remove to my team 1 point nh you go to far? in end I join this tournemrnt for 1 good reason to have fun with skan in this tour but it look like all you can do it do things what takes the people the fun from this tournermnet, like you some a god you can say I not smart man I will agree with you but atleast I not do so low moves by remove this or do this to people in end I prefer to be ban from this tour and my team will not be push by -1 points cuz you didnt like what I say btw again I was say this is my opinion not of my team so stop all this shit and start be real admin and not act like a stupid guy.

" undertaker you idiot/kid and have to grow up, what I no think you going to do soon( you still some arrogant man in the last 4 years). dont take it hard admins I just say my opinion"


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PostSubject: Re: equinoX vs All Good Luck(All Good Luck WON)   Thu Aug 09, 2012 7:49 am

"dont take it hard admins I just say my opinion"
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PostSubject: Re: equinoX vs All Good Luck(All Good Luck WON)   Thu Aug 09, 2012 8:09 am

Since there is so much drama about this, i will comment again on such "popular" topic; i agree sometimes i even forget to put stat fps in certain matches where it is needed, but the rules are rules, that is why you had to put "we are accepting BS 1.1 rules"

Also i suggest F4Ck team to stop comment otherwise you will have points taken off even more; however i highly recommend doing a rematch since it is really unfair on teams as penalty = lose.
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PostSubject: Re: equinoX vs All Good Luck(All Good Luck WON)   Thu Aug 09, 2012 8:16 am

note that poit is removed for `idiot` calling adressed to Undertaker.

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PostSubject: Re: equinoX vs All Good Luck(All Good Luck WON)   Thu Aug 09, 2012 9:10 am

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Rule is a Rule? i hope u know, that the rules are made by HUMANS , not by " god", the rule should have been deleted anyway.

ej, i was trying to remove the rule but i accidently deleted you. ops.

{KL}SkandalisT wrote:
Unnesessary becoase Sttus even cant reach 90 fps limit in cause of very bad pc. Just think: removed fps delete maximum capasity of FPS in game, but he cannot even reach this standart maximum level. Razz What is the sence of using it?

no one here cares what pc others have. I also wondering have you been reading the rules before and have you seen this AREA of the forum. i must be blind, but i could not find any complaints there by you, or anyone else who being active in this topic.

Hell_Angel wrote:
undertaker you idiot/kid

we dont allow namecalling. Aswell as we dont allow trolling.

tommyHILFIGER wrote:
but ITS FIRST TIME, it should be admonition for rest teams .

It's not a FIRST TIME

All in all i suggest to learn on other mistakes either learn on own. Rematch it's a case when both teams broke the rule (s). Rules are applying to everyone. Try to dont forget them and they will not seem unfair/senseless/useless to you anymore.

Anyway yerstaday, after my post, mert asked me to remove the team obviusly not taking in mind you got 5 futher matches to go. Team is removed.

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PostSubject: Re: equinoX vs All Good Luck(All Good Luck WON)   Thu Aug 09, 2012 9:43 am

Twisted Evil Evil Organizers GJ ! pawn these rule breakers lol!
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PostSubject: Re: equinoX vs All Good Luck(All Good Luck WON)   Thu Aug 09, 2012 9:47 am

We are not evil, we are just having an eye on the rules.

And who breaks them, has to live with consequences.


I know guys, life is a shit game, with fantastic graphics.

Anyway, we can still flame and spam this topic , or we can just stick by the rules, and continue to play the tourno.

I really prefer the seconds option.
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PostSubject: Re: equinoX vs All Good Luck(All Good Luck WON)   Thu Aug 09, 2012 10:15 am

well i am sorry i have to do this, as i got asked not to make it public bye the organisation of this tournament. BUT as i said to them before tournament already, i dont see the sense in enabled stat fps, cuz you can easily trick it. I helped you to solve some players problems with this and now i see someone deserving a win, receiving a loss, just cuz he forgot to enable stat fps. If you gave them a rematch....okay, but making them lose is, sry to say it tht hard, a really poor decision.


Ah before i forgot....tricked stat fps
http://screenshot.xfire.com/s/123809936-4.jpg

have fun with it

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Pimp wrote: "Matter is that this rule was hanged from the begin, and noone asked to change/remove it."

I asked for changeing and removing, but as i didnt have proper arguments (the screen lol) it wasnt done. Shit happens
Well it was even more...i got asked to keep my knowledge for myself, so you can keep going with that rule, although its easy to trick
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PostSubject: Re: equinoX vs All Good Luck(All Good Luck WON)   Thu Aug 09, 2012 11:02 am

well I also get annoyed by these stupid comments. There are some rules that are set from start. If you are just too lazy to read them or simply to stupid to follow than nobody should complain if he gets punished. If you dont agree with the rules than you dont need to be here.
Very simple
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PostSubject: Re: equinoX vs All Good Luck(All Good Luck WON)   Thu Aug 09, 2012 11:35 am

@Smash - as I heard, only 1-2 people knew how to trick STAT FPS that was the reason why we left this rule. So the solution is that we should post to everyone now modified swat4.ini to make chances equal to everyone

Also there is many other things that are not possible to verify or we dont know that are veryfied. But i think that its no place where we should instruct people to cheat
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PostSubject: Re: equinoX vs All Good Luck(All Good Luck WON)   Thu Aug 09, 2012 11:41 am

Dr.Evil wrote:
well I also get annoyed by these stupid comments. There are some rules that are set from start. If you are just too lazy to read them or simply to stupid to follow than nobody should complain if he gets punished. If you dont agree with the rules than you dont need to be here.
Very simple

Deeem Right !!! -.-

And Hell_Angel, you should shut ur mouth :/ . You joined here for fun, right ? - So play for fun and stop make useless posts. -.-
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PostSubject: Re: equinoX vs All Good Luck(All Good Luck WON)   Thu Aug 09, 2012 11:47 am

Dr.Evil wrote:
well I also get annoyed by these stupid comments. There are some rules that are set from start. If you are just too lazy to read them or simply to stupid to follow than nobody should complain if he gets punished. If you dont agree with the rules than you dont need to be here.
Very simple
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PostSubject: Re: equinoX vs All Good Luck(All Good Luck WON)   Thu Aug 09, 2012 11:56 am

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@Smash - as I heard, only 1-2 people knew how to trick STAT FPS that was the reason why we left this rule. So the solution is that we should post to everyone now modified swat4.ini to make chances equal to everyone

Funfact: This trick has NOTHING to do with any ini... I do not even need to open any Configs to change those fps
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PostSubject: Re: equinoX vs All Good Luck(All Good Luck WON)   Thu Aug 09, 2012 12:09 pm

i know, i meant just that if we allow fps cam, we shall place on forum this, that everyone can use it Smile

anyway i get your arguments to remove this rule, i just dont get to not follow the rules Wink
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PostSubject: Re: equinoX vs All Good Luck(All Good Luck WON)   Thu Aug 09, 2012 1:15 pm

Spam ftw! Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: equinoX vs All Good Luck(All Good Luck WON)   Thu Aug 09, 2012 1:45 pm

Why don't you just let AGL's players (Helios & MrA) decide how to proceed? As I see it the match was not anywhere near close, obviously equinox won every round with ease. Maybe AGL will acknowledge that equinox was the superior team or they could do a rematch at least. I think decision should be up to them, they still have the right to claim their win due to the breach of this rule though.
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PostSubject: Re: equinoX vs All Good Luck(All Good Luck WON)   Thu Aug 09, 2012 2:03 pm

Honestly I don't see a reason of rematch cuz anyway we will lose. They're just better than us.

And we can handle the lost match cuz we're playing here just 4 fun Smile

For me the equinox team should has this match as won. But still decision is up to Admins
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PostSubject: Re: equinoX vs All Good Luck(All Good Luck WON)   Thu Aug 09, 2012 2:57 pm

Dr.Evil wrote:
well I also get annoyed by these stupid comments. There are some rules that are set from start. If you are just too lazy to read them or simply to stupid to follow than nobody should complain if he gets punished. If you dont agree with the rules than you dont need to be here.
Very simple


1) Have I or MerT ever complained? No.

I just have been very kind and pleased nicely for another chance, because I have some manner and this was just stupid mistake by my side.
I really don´t think I am lazy to read them, as I´ve read them all. I am not stupid to don´t follow them, otherwise I would spawnkill, for example, and wouldn´t regret my actions.

2) Yes, we have changed our stand about the rules, admins and when we ´ve seen this isn´t a place for us - we left tournament. Wink

3) Not every comment is stupid, you might be stupid if you think so. People can give their opinion and administrators should listen to them. Not every rule is a good rule, or don´t you know that? Do you think there are only good rules in life, or games?

I am not going to comment this quote anymore, as it would have negative progress.
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Thank you, Mr A!, for your comment. Also thanks everyone who agreed with us. Smile

Have fun.


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PostSubject: Re: equinoX vs All Good Luck(All Good Luck WON)   Thu Aug 09, 2012 3:03 pm

Ah, and by the way.

Nagi is the best now, he banned Sonny. Very Happy He is the one, clap for him. cheers

PS: Just waiting when I will eat my banana. ´Lmao Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: equinoX vs All Good Luck(All Good Luck WON)   Thu Aug 09, 2012 3:18 pm

hey, dear, mert complained to me over xfire, and being full of tears asked me to remove team. i bet without noticing you and seems you still not noticed aswell as seems that you havnt read my previos comment where all things were popped up. You read a rules dont get why you ask for *second chance*, just imagine this chance will be given to everyone here every team got same rights and none is highter or lower.

About sonny, well, we do ban trolls aslong as they dont represant any team, or went too far.

Locked, keep clapping
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PostSubject: Re: equinoX vs All Good Luck(All Good Luck WON)   Thu Aug 09, 2012 3:56 pm

ps if you cant handle one lost out of 100 im very glad this team out, and i hope there will be no such egoistic teams anymore
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