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Shall we add this rule?
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no
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PostSubject: Re: New tournament rule?   Tue Jul 03, 2012 2:27 pm

nagi pls put in the server smac, and then do a test try?.....I think many will be driven out Very Happy, groped does not hurt do not you think?


Gumias.....
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PostSubject: Re: New tournament rule?   Tue Jul 03, 2012 2:27 pm

Well

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§8 Cheat - modified game file more than SWAT4 game version 1.1 interface allows, other files or programs used in Match to make advantage to Player (excluding communication software, including ACM Admin Mod, removed FPS limit).

It means that "Swat4.ini" should be almost untouched (changes are allowed just from the interface of the game) so would be more intelligent, as i wrote, make available an untouched "Swat4.ini".

SMAC bans if you made some changes in your ini file, so we would solve many problems...

Anyway It has to be tested but could seriously solve the "problems" that uac3 can't.
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PostSubject: Re: New tournament rule?   Tue Jul 03, 2012 2:35 pm

The_MaSk wrote:
nagi pls put in the server smac, and then do a test try?.....I think many will be driven out Very Happy, groped does not hurt do not you think?


Gumias.....

I have played 200 times in a server with SMAC and what I got is more lags and less fps anyways ;D
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PostSubject: Re: New tournament rule?   Tue Jul 03, 2012 2:45 pm

Legno wrote:
Well

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§8 Cheat - modified game file more than SWAT4 game version 1.1 interface allows, other files or programs used in Match to make advantage to Player (excluding communication software, including ACM Admin Mod, removed FPS limit).

It means that "Swat4.ini" should be almost untouched (changes are allowed just from the interface of the game) so would be more intelligent, as i wrote, make available an untouched "Swat4.ini".

Delete Swat4.ini in your system folder and when you load game up again you will receive original ini again, Voila!
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PostSubject: Re: New tournament rule?   Tue Jul 03, 2012 2:52 pm

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Delete Swat4.ini in your system folder and when you load game up again you will receive original ini again, Voila!

Of course It would be the most intelligent way but in order to prevent any type of problems (like "I didn't know" , "I forgot to delete" etc) would be intelligent make available this file (untouched)
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PostSubject: Re: New tournament rule?   Tue Jul 03, 2012 2:58 pm

Gumias wrote:
The_MaSk wrote:
nagi pls put in the server smac, and then do a test try?.....I think many will be driven out Very Happy, groped does not hurt do not you think?


Gumias.....

I have played 200 times in a server with SMAC and what I got is more lags and less fps anyways ;D

yeah, but the question is that you loose FPS and you get more lags, when auto-admin actions are switched off??? (like lesslethal/weapon off for team nading etc)
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PostSubject: Re: New tournament rule?   Tue Jul 03, 2012 3:22 pm

once again

- it's 1.1 tournament, swat is version is 1.1
- It's NOT possible to play with edited ini files in 1.1. Unless it's fps cap, prefomance changes in swat. ini (resolution, textures quality), changes in user.ini (Keybinds etc) and uselless for most changes in swatgui.ini
- SMAC does NOT detect ANY changes in these 3 files.
- SMAC is USELESS in 1.1
- all in all It's not free - SMAC reques additional payment.
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PostSubject: Re: New tournament rule?   Tue Jul 03, 2012 6:46 pm

I do not belive SMAC. Markieboy remove almost each ban when someone made appeal. So that mean even owner isnt sure in 100 % smac. Smac doing mistakes and ban innocent poeple what cant happen while tournament. It is also reason of lags on and not stable fps.
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PostSubject: Re: New tournament rule?   Tue Jul 03, 2012 8:02 pm

I was banned by smac few times only becoase I had bad pc.
Smac making too much mistakes, also it cause lags and huge "nodie". Nagi several times replyed, that in 1.1 ini hax not alowed. What is the sence of using mod, which just lag your game and do not do anything usefull?
Idk what is point of discussion about smac... All normal players know, that smac is a bugged stuff and use it as tournament anticheat - is kinda stupid.
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PostSubject: Re: New tournament rule?   Tue Jul 03, 2012 8:12 pm

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Nagi several times replyed, that in 1.1 ini hax not alowed.

Turn 180° when you're tazed isn't detected on uac3, so I bet many people will use it... but is not allowed modify a cfg in order to increase fps that would be useful for everyone (especially for people that got a low pc). I just don't understand this point.
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PostSubject: Re: New tournament rule?   Tue Jul 03, 2012 8:17 pm

about taze, you mean situation, when you turn to aim opponent, when you are tazed, or situation where you are tazed and you are able to make turns?
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PostSubject: Re: New tournament rule?   Tue Jul 03, 2012 8:22 pm

eeem, yea I said wrong about hax in 1.1 version. Very Happy But still "bturn=180" - standart game command same as "hands down".
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PostSubject: Re: New tournament rule?   Tue Jul 03, 2012 8:25 pm

Both I suppose (I never tried and I'm not interested to use these things) but some friends showed me :/
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PostSubject: Re: New tournament rule?   Tue Jul 03, 2012 8:27 pm

Legno wrote:


Turn 180°


It's not a cheat

Legno wrote:
but is not allowed modify a cfg in order to increase fps that would be useful for everyone

Who said?
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PostSubject: Re: New tournament rule?   Tue Jul 03, 2012 8:28 pm

so we can use fps modification ? xd
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PostSubject: Re: New tournament rule?   Tue Jul 03, 2012 8:32 pm

Please take a litle bit more patience during reading the rules and forum posts above.

§46 Teams are responsible for choosing their own UAC Match IDs, Players have to play Match with `stat fps` activated via console. (penalty: Match lost)
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PostSubject: Re: New tournament rule?   Tue Jul 03, 2012 8:35 pm

§8 Cheat - modified game file more than SWAT4 game version 1.1 interface allows, other files or programs used in Match to make advantage to Player (excluding communication software, including ACM Admin Mod, removed FPS limit).
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PostSubject: Re: New tournament rule?   Wed Jul 04, 2012 11:00 am

Quote :


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but is not allowed modify a cfg in order to increase fps that would be useful for everyone

Who said?

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Quote :
§8 Cheat - modified game file more than SWAT4 game version 1.1 interface allows, other files or programs used in Match to make advantage to Player (excluding communication software, including ACM Admin Mod, removed FPS limit).

= ?!

Well this rule doesn't make sense.

modified game file more than SWAT4 game version 1.1 interface allows, other files or programs used in Match to make advantage to Player -> It means you can just modify settings from SWAT4 interface

(BUT there are some exceptions)

excluding communication software -> It means that from this rule is EXCLUDED the use of communication software (like TS3, Skype etc) well you CAN use these software

including ACM Admin Mod -> It sounds like: in cheat stuff is INCLUDED the use of ACM Admin Mod, well you have to do everything from console (Switch all, Kick etc). It's ok although I don't see any reason to forbid it (It means also that you can't use RCLIENT, because It has got Admin Mod inclueded)

removed FPS limit -> It doesn't explain anything... Is it INCLUDED or EXCLUDED from the "§8 Cheat" rule? It's not clear


Anyway from your previous reply I could summarize:
You CAN use communication software
You CAN'T use ACM Admin mod, RCLIENT Utility
You CAN modify your Swat4.ini to increase your pc performance
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PostSubject: Re: New tournament rule?   Wed Jul 04, 2012 11:42 am

Ok, you cannot modify ini, which means only clean or original can be used? from the start, this has been the case.

You can use communication software such as Teamspeak or Skype to communicate with teammate.

You cannot edit ini to have removed fps limit which is 90 fps, ok maybe its written in wrong order but: REMOVED FPS LIMIT = NOT ALLOWED AND ACM ADMIN MOD = NOT ALLOWED, only thing allowed is communication software?

is this clearer for you?


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PostSubject: Re: New tournament rule?   Wed Jul 04, 2012 1:12 pm

Ehm Nagi wrote another thing:

ME:
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but is not allowed modify a cfg in order to increase fps that would be useful for everyone

NAGI (reply):
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PostSubject: Re: New tournament rule?   Wed Jul 04, 2012 2:11 pm

Originial swat4.ini dosnt contain any unfair stuff. ini settings wich are really pushing on game perfomace can be found right in the game settings. It's not welcome to add extra lines to swat.ini but on other hand there is no actual way we will be able to check it exeption is fps limit- players will have to play with stat fps command and screens wil be reviewed via uac

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PostSubject: Re: New tournament rule?   Wed Jul 04, 2012 2:49 pm

"including ACM Admin Mod" - Rclient and ACM Admin Mod not allowed. you can use Gez client, you can find instalation instructions in tutorial for Antics client.

about FPS limit, Charfire`s interpretation is correct, sorry for grammar but my english is not perfect
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PostSubject: Re: New tournament rule?   Fri Jul 20, 2012 11:49 am

For me bad idea it's not cod a referee could be enough.
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PostSubject: Re: New tournament rule?   Fri Jul 20, 2012 11:59 am

it wont be nesesary to make videos, also we wont find ref for each match, so its only player`s business to prove that you was spawned or someone was using bug
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PostSubject: Re: New tournament rule?   Fri Jul 20, 2012 1:09 pm

It is impossible to arrange referee for each match. There is already 35 teams sing in. Anyway I learn in last cup even with referee there is allways someone who complain Wink
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