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Shall we add this rule?
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Legno



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PostSubject: New tournament rule?   Sun Jul 01, 2012 12:35 pm

Hello,

I wanted to propose to add a new "rule".

Each player will have to record a video of every round and the opponents can ask to post it, in the same way, if you know someone used a bug or made spawn during the game, you will have a proof to show it (this is the main function).

There is a program called "Bandicam", It's used to record videos (like fraps) but more light. Using settings I will post now the size of 1 round (of 7 minutes) will be 45MB. 45MB x 4 rounds = 180MB easily uploadable, taking around 20 minutes (I will post also many links of free storage hosters).

P.S.: This program does not make fps drop during the game (looks like turned off) just set the fps limit taking a look about your real fps in-game, check "Set limit FPS" and "Just in registration" (in FPS sheet).

For example, if you got 90fps, you will have to set 90fps as "limit".

Obviously set also the HotKey to run/stop rec.

(The program must be started before to start a game)

Download program:
***
http://www.bandicam.com/

Info installation:
1. Download
2. Unrar
3. Choose x64 (64bit) or x86 (32bit)
4. Install (don't run it at the end)
5. ***
6. Launch Bandicam Launcher (admin rights)
7. Press "5", send
8. Modify settings
9. Run game, join a server
10. Start rec

Bandicam settings (very good sound and good video quality):
http://www.mediafire.com/?u85v82ysq2as2o3

Free storage hosters:
mozy.com
omemo.com
box.net
mediafire.com
upload.divshare.com
yousendit.com
senduit.com
4shared.com
megashares.com
imageshack.us

Well, try it and reply.

Adding this new rule, there will not be any doubts about players and noone will use bugs or will made spawn.

Obviously if the match will be played fairly from both sides there will not need to upload any video.

It has to be recorded, but if 4/4 players agree to don't use it, it will be ok (to prevent mistakes and whine would be better get a screenshot of it)

Regards.
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PostSubject: Re: New tournament rule?   Sun Jul 01, 2012 12:39 pm

well, interesting post. you have any example of video made like this?

anyway it will have to be tested before will appear as a rule
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PostSubject: Re: New tournament rule?   Sun Jul 01, 2012 1:18 pm

poll added Wink
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PostSubject: Re: New tournament rule?   Sun Jul 01, 2012 1:28 pm

Demo version - watermark on top and 10 minuts recording limit
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PostSubject: Re: New tournament rule?   Sun Jul 01, 2012 1:37 pm

yeah, there was rule update - now round will have 15min.

Anyway it can be good tool for all Players, for examle before every spawn you can switch on recording to get it recorded, or if you see someone using bugs etc
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PostSubject: Re: New tournament rule?   Sun Jul 01, 2012 2:44 pm

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you have any example of video made like this?

Just try it.

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yeah, there was rule update - now round will have 15min.

It would have been better 7mins...
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PostSubject: Re: New tournament rule?   Sun Jul 01, 2012 4:02 pm

ech, i heard few complains that BS players used to have 15min rounds, we will concider it
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PostSubject: Re: New tournament rule?   Sun Jul 01, 2012 4:20 pm

That's a good idea.

At least protest wll be easier to solve
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PostSubject: Re: New tournament rule?   Sun Jul 01, 2012 5:54 pm

at least on bf3 works, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRqN4SFyxd0
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PostSubject: Re: New tournament rule?   Sun Jul 01, 2012 5:54 pm

I suppose if bf3 so heavy game does support it, swat4 should be easy lol
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PostSubject: Re: New tournament rule?   Sun Jul 01, 2012 6:01 pm

ehhhhhhh i dont think its a good idea. i mean if some1 uses bugs or makes spawn u can take video then.
but using this all the time makes it so much more complicated to play match cuz every1 need to have videos and every1 need to check if its on for every1 and blabla Neutral
+ i cant believe its lagg free.

even using uac3 during game makes me pissed cuz we need to wait 20 mins for ppl to get there and still some ppl have problems with it. + its not lagg free. but i get it ofc cuz its to prevent cheats so np.
but this isnt so necessary.

this could be solved by using referees like so far in ever tourny.
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PostSubject: Re: New tournament rule?   Sun Jul 01, 2012 6:31 pm

1. If both team agree to don't use it, it will not be used (then people have not to cry if will get spawn, bugs etc. and can't proove it) but if just one wants to see videos, at the end of the match, then everyone has to use it.

2. It doesn't take anything, just start it, join a server and press a key.

3. At the end of the game opponents can ask to post videos if someone made something unfair (obviously posting their videos too if required from other team).

4.Noone has to check if that program is on (like uac) but if has been decided to use it and someone has not recorded video will get def-win for other team or something else (orga. of tourny will decide about that).

5. You can try it, using the right settings, it will not create any lag.
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PostSubject: Re: New tournament rule?   Sun Jul 01, 2012 7:22 pm

it isnt really rocket science to put uac on either but somehow it takes 15 mins for some1 to put it on. so i bet this would have same issue.
+ uploading some stupid video 20mins cuz some1 asks for it isnt really my interest.
+ i dont think its any1s business how some1 plays the game. like this u can see all the moves and tactics players use and its stupid in my opinion :s
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PostSubject: Re: New tournament rule?   Sun Jul 01, 2012 7:40 pm

maybe everuone should feel free to use it, and if you was spawned, you should post video, not opponent Wink

anyway i think that it will be hard to egzecute it as a rule :/
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PostSubject: Re: New tournament rule?   Mon Jul 02, 2012 11:17 am

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like this u can see all the moves and tactics players use and its stupid in my opinion :s

I'm sure there will be a lot of tactics Very Happy

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maybe everuone should feel free to use it, and if you was spawned, you should post video, not opponent

Yes, could be, anyway It would have been useful to prevent buggers etc. but okey Wink
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PostSubject: Re: New tournament rule?   Mon Jul 02, 2012 4:57 pm

I think some poeple still using 512 ram Wink So even uac3 is problem but I never tried this program so I dont have opinion. Im wonder how many mb has file after recording 15 min gameplay. Ofcorse you can change format file but I guess still some poeple has sucks speed upload.
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PostSubject: Re: New tournament rule?   Tue Jul 03, 2012 12:34 pm

"it's a good idea"

In this tournament, put smac in servers is good for ini Smile..... At this time in swat all players use cheat with ini Smile change weapons faster, norecol, precise aims, etc. etc. is easy Smile.....

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PostSubject: Re: New tournament rule?   Tue Jul 03, 2012 12:37 pm

The_MaSk wrote:
"it's a good idea"

In this tournament, put smac in servers is good for ini Smile..... At this time in swat all players use cheat with ini Smile change weapons faster, norecol, precise aims, etc. etc. is easy Smile.....


That's one of main reasons why tournament will be held in 1.1
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PostSubject: Re: New tournament rule?   Tue Jul 03, 2012 12:42 pm

but it must be done with smac Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: New tournament rule?   Tue Jul 03, 2012 12:42 pm

Quote :
"it's a good idea"

In this tournament, put smac in servers is good for ini ..... At this time in swat all players use cheat with ini change weapons faster, norecol, precise aims, etc. etc. is easy .....

+1 very useful

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That's one of main reasons why tournament will be held in 1.1

Yes, but there's not "Smac" in 99% of 1.1 servers
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PostSubject: Re: New tournament rule?   Tue Jul 03, 2012 12:45 pm

There is no way you can play with edited inis in 1.1 expetions are: removed fps cap (Impossible to detect unless fps shows on player's screen), little changes in swat ini to improve perfomance and changes in user ini which can't be counted as cheat and they are also not detected by smac
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PostSubject: Re: New tournament rule?   Tue Jul 03, 2012 12:53 pm

smac detects ini modified , an example? in 1.0 with smac the nrs were banned for a tournament, I said all with this. I still have the screen somewhere Smile
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PostSubject: Re: New tournament rule?   Tue Jul 03, 2012 12:55 pm

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There is no way you can play with edited inis in 1.1 expetions are: removed fps cap (Impossible to detect unless fps shows on player's screen), little changes in swat ini to improve perfomance and changes in user ini which can't be counted as cheat and they are also not detected by smac

Mmh, a good way to prevent it and at the same time to ban ini modifiers would be make available an untouched swat4.ini to download..
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PostSubject: Re: New tournament rule?   Tue Jul 03, 2012 1:34 pm

1) at SWAT4v1.1 game most of *.ini files were replaced by *.bat files
2) at SWAT4v1.1 swat4.ini will be secured in only way we know:
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§46 Teams are responsible for choosing their own UAC Match IDs, Players have to play Match with `stat fps` activated via console. (penalty: Match lost)
3) SMAC will have to be activated with MarkMod installed, as we know, MarkMod cause lags (I dont know how it is with all auto-admin functions deactivated, only with SMAC `on`, can someone claryfie?)
4) as I know SMAC is buggy making BAN for nothing.

If Im wrong, pls make it clear.
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PostSubject: Re: New tournament rule?   Tue Jul 03, 2012 2:13 pm

The_MaSk wrote:
but it must be done with smac Very Happy
smac sucks hard lol Basketball
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