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Posts : 45 Join date : 2010-03-19 Age : 32 Location : Spain

You can feel lucky you won 2 matches. WM did not cheat, UAC just detected old cheat files in some folder, and for that we lost the match in which we had fairly defeated your team.

It counted 8 - 0 defeat for us so our ratio became very bad, so if you just had won a single round vs EPIC you would have had better ratio than us and you would get to quarter final, but you lost 8 - 0.

WM won 6 - 2 vs EPIC and also defeated your team 5 - 1 (after 6 rounds).

and EPIC won 8 - 0 vs you.

How do you want to get to quarter finals ? WM and EPIC showed to be much better than you.

Posts : 37 Join date : 2011-04-27

Xavii wrote:: and EPIC won 8 - 0 vs you.

How do you want to get to quarter finals ? WM and EPIC showed to be much better than you.

I agree.

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Xavii wrote:: You can feel lucky you won 2 matches. WM did not cheat, UAC just detected old cheat files in some folder, and for that we lost the match in which we had fairly defeated your team.

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@Xavii - well, cheat patch was swat4/content/system , so it was in game folder and was detected during match. nevermind he was using this or now not. penalty was given.

@MuSh - you was close to go to playoffs, WM is lucky that cheat in game rule was only lost match. Previous tournament was disqualification, now its too late to change it. I just didnt expect that someone will be so sdupit to cheat or just will be caught in game. i was very surprised about this 3 players. it had be so simple, just to play and post scores, but some people making problems all time :/

another reason for me to stop playing tis game soon

Posts : 79 Join date : 2011-04-21

doubt these problems dont occur in other games pimp...

yes blood if you are honest, you lost to epic 8-0 and WM 6-1 or sth like that.
doubt you would have won against WM if highlander didnt cheat.

and xavi, cmon man dont try to find excuses for cheaters -.-

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well Hutch, in your group some people were making troubles too, accusing all teams for cheating

Posts : 45 Join date : 2010-03-19 Age : 32 Location : Spain

|Fs|Hutch wrote:: doubt these problems dont occur in other games pimp...

yes blood if you are honest, you lost to epic 8-0 and WM 6-1 or sth like that.
doubt you would have won against WM if highlander didnt cheat.

and xavi, cmon man dont try to find excuses for cheaters -.-

I'm not looking for excuses, highlander (ak Lacika) is a well known 1.0 and 1.1 player for over 4 years, indeed KL clan tried to recruit him just 1 month ago. Nobody has ever suspected or accused him from cheating. I dont know in which folder he had cheats, but I'm sure he didnt use them, he's not sdupit enough to use cheats with uac enabled and referee watching. But im not defending him, indeed we kicked him from clan because there's no reason to have cheats in pc. I was just argumenting that our victory was fair.

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Quote :: DExUS | UAC admin | a day ago

Cheat detected: PRR34GVPL
CHEAT FILE: D:\Program Files\Sierra\SWAT 4\Content\System\service.dll

source: http://uac3.com/#forum_posts/id=931

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Anyway i see also Blood dont know how to play clean Very Happy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4teSZhuFnU

Subject: Re: garbage Mon May 23, 2011 2:17 pm

Sure they dont and not only MrElie but also wallhacker Terminator (not playing in tournament though):

http://forum.markmods.com/index.php?topic=1793.0 (caught both by markmod and UAC)

Posts : 1 Join date : 2010-03-17

i can understand that its a bit strange a team who had cheater gets trough because of points and others not.

But since the rules are like only lost match i think this is most fair.
WM is better anyway but i understand Blood to.

to make real sure u can make another match blood vs WM who wins goes trough but thats no my decision ofcourse Smile

Subject: Re: garbage Mon May 23, 2011 5:00 pm

dinozzo, i guess even blood clan won't state they're better than WM. a rematch would just be a waste of time.

PimpMyGun wrote:: WM is lucky that cheat in game rule was only lost match. Previous tournament was disqualification, now its too late to change it. I just didnt expect that someone will be so sdupit to cheat or just will be caught in game. i was very surprised about this 3 players.

as i see it it's a question of credibility, trust and sporting fairness. if WM would feel guilty for what they've done, they probably would have resigned from the tournament by their own choice. but they didn't, so they can be happy to move on to the next round cause of what pimp said.

Subject: Re: garbage Mon May 23, 2011 5:26 pm

Why I should feel guilty. As like Xavii mentioned above nobody suspected Highlander about cheating. I never saw something strange in his game and I doubt if someone is so sdupit to use cheats with ON uac3. Anyway he did mistake and he paid for it. This is first time in history clan (WM exist more than 5 years) when WM member was busted by UAC so pls do not attach plate cheaters to us. I bet in each clan happen black sheep.

Subject: Re: garbage Mon May 23, 2011 6:05 pm

Michal wrote:: This is first time in history clan (WM exist more than 5 years) when WM member was busted by UAC so pls do not attach plate cheaters to us. I bet in each clan happen black sheep.

you're right michal, filix was so clever to not get busted cheating by UAC, but by human eye. good job.
i can only talk for our clan: our black sheeps existed, but they are kicked from the clan and never played a clan war because we use to keep our eyes open and don't even let them play when we are suspicious.

Posts : 79 Join date : 2011-04-21

starsky is right. he forgot to mention that filix was/is clanleader for a long time.

btw xavi ive seen ppl posting screenshots of their high scores in their own clan forum to impress ppl with it and you could see radar on their shots.

Einstein said:"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'mnot sure about the former."

dont question cheaters stupidity Wink

Posts : 30 Join date : 2010-03-16

Well,I don't like to take part in such chat, but too many crappy comments are posted here so...

1. We had a "black sheep" during 1 game. WM lost that game 0-8. Nobody from our side complain about it.

2. The player was punished by WM.

3. Why should we quit a tournament, when in fact all other WM members played good and won all 3 games...

4. It's not my fault Blood is such a low clan which could not even win a single round vs EPIC clan. Yes we were lucky...but it's not our fault that in overall ratio we were better.

5. If people don't like us, or think we are not clean thats there problem. But please be fair and look to other problems which occur always in tournaments like this ex. R-client on, UAC inactive by some players and other "cought" cheaters.

That were my free thoughts. Regards !

Posts : 46 Join date : 2010-03-17

Anyway for me he doesnt cheat take or not he is good nice player he tked 2 times during match if he had radar activated wouldnt he pwn? and not suck? intertesting all are just negative with us so you can try to make your lifes simpler in the torunament by getting us removed.
Blood if you wanted to go get through easy way was to draw a round and camp a vip in spawn all map 8 mins and ur through if you had any tactics ideas you would know what to do and all match with us you were asking how i knew where u were well its easy to know if you played the game long enough you would know.

Posts : 79 Join date : 2011-04-21

Id like to say that i think WM deserved to be in the playoffs and there is no doubt about it.

so every cheater is uberpwner? sure...

apart from that its funny that michal implicates no WM ever was caught cheating...

Posts : 66 Join date : 2011-04-19 Age : 29 Location : /root

|Fs|Hutch wrote:: Id like to say that i think WM deserved to be in the playoffs and there is no doubt about it.

so every cheater is uberpwner? sure...

apart from that its funny that michal implicates no WM ever was caught cheating...

So explain to me, if cheaters don't pwn or gain any other advantage to game. Why do we need softwares such as UAC3 to catch them out? it's also funny what you implied there totally contradicts the viewpoint of "Cheaters".

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ok. its going now to be guge offtopic. even i was dragged in to it. i tink that Blood`s question is replyed

Posts : 79 Join date : 2011-04-21

ofc they gain advantage.doesnt mean they are all elite each and every one of them.

greetz to filix btw Wink

dont know how this name popped into my head Very Happy

Posts : 66 Join date : 2011-04-19 Age : 29 Location : /root

|Fs|Hutch wrote:: ofc they gain advantage.doesnt mean they are all elite each and every one of them.

greetz to filix btw dont know how this name popped into my head

Really? Really? you really have to bring that up?

before you start talking im sure Fs had some cheaters in their clan, and it's done and dusted so why are you still mentioning this?

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come on guys, im close to lock this topic. you can find yourself xfire names somewhere here and talk

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sry pimp

Fs had cheaters too, all 3 of them were caught and kicked.none of them remained clanleader in Fs Very Happy

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@locked