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Johan

Posts : 40 Join date : 2010-03-14 Age : 27 Location : Belgium
 | Subject: Broad casting Thu Apr 22, 2010 12:44 pm | |
| Hey guys, I was thinking that it would be a nice way to end this tournament if we broadcast the final LIVE. ND has direct connection to our site, so everybody would be able to follow the match. I dont mean if ND plays in final or not, that doesnt mather. From final we can expect a high level game. and i think it would be really nice to watch. already some ND's are asking if we will be doing this. We have done it with several matches before and it doesnt give any lag. Its just 1 person in view who is switching teams sometimes. There will be 1 or maybe 2 people commentating on the match (like with football or something where u have 1 or 2 people giving commentary) If anybody have any questions about this please ask me and i"ll try to answer. And pimp please say yes <3  |
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NDFreddy

Posts : 50 Join date : 2010-03-14
 | Subject: Re: Broad casting Thu Apr 22, 2010 1:54 pm | |
| also match about 3rd place should be broadcasted! |
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Spider

Posts : 70 Join date : 2010-03-14 Age : 33 Location : Czech Republic
 | Subject: Re: Broad casting Thu Apr 22, 2010 2:06 pm | |
| I think that is a great idea which could make this game even more popular. I think this idea should been given a try at least. We don't have good experience with broadcasting, but we tried it via xfire. So you say this way is gonna be different and without lags? It would be cool! |
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Lt_Smash

Posts : 25 Join date : 2010-03-18
 | Subject: Re: Broad casting Thu Apr 22, 2010 5:39 pm | |
| nice idea, pls record the broadcast so final players can view it after the final |
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NDFreddy

Posts : 50 Join date : 2010-03-14
 | Subject: Re: Broad casting Thu Apr 22, 2010 5:42 pm | |
| all will be recorded ofcourse.. You can watch it again and again  We already tried it and its really without any lags.. Just the guy who is recording needs a good connection! |
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Xavii

Posts : 45 Join date : 2010-03-19 Age : 27 Location : Spain
 | Subject: Re: Broad casting Thu Apr 22, 2010 7:31 pm | |
| yes and if i play final i will tell my brother to watch it in the other pc and report me positions of the other team.
if there's someone watching final he can report positions ...
the broadcast idea is great but this is a big problem. someone watching it can easily report enemys tactic or positions.
do u think it would be posible to broadcast it with 1 round delay ?? while the second round of the final is being played people can watch the first one, so any report would be useless. |
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Michal Admin


Posts : 385 Join date : 2010-03-13 Age : 35 Location : Poland
 | Subject: Re: Broad casting Thu Apr 22, 2010 7:45 pm | |
| well for me isnt problem  |
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Coert Technical Departement

Posts : 19 Join date : 2010-03-13 Age : 28 Location : Netherlands
 | Subject: Re: Broad casting Thu Apr 22, 2010 7:48 pm | |
| - Xavii wrote:
- yes and if i play final i will tell my brother to watch it in the other pc and report me positions of the other team.
if there's someone watching final he can report positions ...
the broadcast idea is great but this is a big problem. someone watching it can easily report enemys tactic or positions.
do u think it would be posible to broadcast it with 1 round delay ?? while the second round of the final is being played people can watch the first one, so any report would be useless.
Yes we can broadcast later, but that would take away the "Live" effect. |
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Bolek

Posts : 23 Join date : 2010-03-14 Age : 27 Location : Poland
 | Subject: Re: Broad casting Thu Apr 22, 2010 8:09 pm | |
| - Xavii wrote:
- yes and if i play final i will tell my brother to watch it in the other pc and report me positions of the other team.
if there's someone watching final he can report positions ...
the broadcast idea is great but this is a big problem. someone watching it can easily report enemys tactic or positions.
i don't think so that shit like this will happend. I think that this will be fair game on high level, thinks like this is like cheating, u want make game unfair! You just thinking abaut this - interesting ;] Like Coert said we want this live effect. |
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NDFreddy

Posts : 50 Join date : 2010-03-14
 | Subject: Re: Broad casting Thu Apr 22, 2010 9:06 pm | |
| I dont think this is possible xavii xD there is already a slight delay and if you try to do things like that you: 1) have to be very very lucky that exactly that player is just viewed 2) Have to look on your brothers screen while michal come from your back and arrest you 3) it only works for BIG BIG campers 4) Just play fair 5) It wont be a problem trust me  |
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Xavii

Posts : 45 Join date : 2010-03-19 Age : 27 Location : Spain
 | Subject: Re: Broad casting Thu Apr 22, 2010 9:09 pm | |
| lol bolek, after playing this game for 3 years, i have seen people modifing swat files, hacking UAC and even using diferent computers to avoid UAC detection. and u want me to think that nobody will try to make this ?? |
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RuGiZuGi

Posts : 18 Join date : 2010-03-19
 | Subject: Re: Broad casting Thu Apr 22, 2010 9:57 pm | |
| I thinks it's a nice idea, so why not? - Xavii wrote:
- lol bolek, after playing this game for 3 years, i have seen people modifing swat files, hacking UAC and even using diferent computers to avoid UAC detection. and u want me to think that nobody will try to make this ??
Well Xavii, this tournament is only for having fun, I think we are all here to have fun and not to betray ourselfes by watching this broadcast and report the the opponents tactic, positions etc..., aren't we?  |
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Michal Admin


Posts : 385 Join date : 2010-03-13 Age : 35 Location : Poland
 | Subject: Re: Broad casting Thu Apr 22, 2010 10:06 pm | |
| Ok so I dont know if it is possible but maybe lets show match with 5 min delay. After 5 min situation will be diametrically another and we not lost "live" effect |
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Coert Technical Departement

Posts : 19 Join date : 2010-03-13 Age : 28 Location : Netherlands
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George

Posts : 8 Join date : 2010-03-19
 | Subject: Re: Broad casting Fri Apr 23, 2010 10:09 am | |
| Its very good idea. As Michal said, it could be 5 min delay and there will be no problem. And about commentators- this must be person (poepole) who know english veeeery good. But this isn't a problem, i think so. |
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PimpMyGun Admin


Posts : 1441 Join date : 2010-03-11
 | Subject: Re: Broad casting Fri Apr 23, 2010 11:28 am | |
| YES! - for this idea.
Poloish SWAT4 community wanted to braodcast games, but now is silence for thsi ide, so you can do it!!!! I have not best hardware and connection, so some else should do it :/ Also maybe at broadcast could be some commentary in english!!!!!!!!!!! And what you think about comments for 3rd place games and 1/2 finals?
I want for this broadcast atleast 30 second delay, max 5min. Without this i wont agree for that.
Pls post or PM me all details pls. |
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Xavii

Posts : 45 Join date : 2010-03-19 Age : 27 Location : Spain
 | Subject: Re: Broad casting Fri Apr 23, 2010 1:12 pm | |
| - RuGiZuGi wrote:
- I thinks it's a nice idea, so why not?
Well Xavii, this tournament is only for having fun, I think we are all here to have fun and not to betray ourselfes by watching this broadcast and report the the opponents tactic, positions etc..., aren't we? 
ofc is to have fun, but for that same reason, we wouldnt need UAC2. |
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Michal Admin


Posts : 385 Join date : 2010-03-13 Age : 35 Location : Poland
 | Subject: Re: Broad casting Fri Apr 23, 2010 1:25 pm | |
| So lets make 5 min delay and problem solved. Well UAC2 same like allowed spawnkilling (not for SGT lol) avoid useless sdupit discussion.
Last edited by Michal on Fri Apr 23, 2010 2:01 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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KrazyFire

Posts : 46 Join date : 2010-03-17
 | Subject: Re: Broad casting Fri Apr 23, 2010 1:33 pm | |
| better password the broadcast so neither finale teams know it and like only coert can give password etc  |
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RuGiZuGi

Posts : 18 Join date : 2010-03-19
 | Subject: Re: Broad casting Fri Apr 23, 2010 1:45 pm | |
| I don't see this as cheat...if a clan wants to betray theirself..have fun, I don't give a shit for it.  About the UAC...in general I have to agree with you also due to much happenings in the past which destroyed my trust into UAC. You can't expect from everyone that you know who is cheating or not (I don't wanna call any names but some of them contains the letters ESA ;P) so UAC is better than "nothing". - Michal wrote:
- Well UAC2 same like allowed spawnkilling (not for SGT lol) avoid useless sdupit discussion.
Agree |
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PimpMyGun Admin


Posts : 1441 Join date : 2010-03-11
 | Subject: Re: Broad casting Fri Apr 23, 2010 1:53 pm | |
| for me 30s delay about broadcasting is enough. in 60s can happen a lot, so noone cant report positions etc. |
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Rocky

Posts : 21 Join date : 2010-03-14 Age : 26 Location : Ulcinj
 | Subject: Re: Broad casting Fri Apr 23, 2010 2:26 pm | |
| - PimpMyGun wrote:
- for me 30s delay about broadcasting is enough. in 60s can happen a lot, so noone cant report positions etc.
hmm on some maps it is best to camp down at the same place 30 sec are too less i think 3 - 5 min is enough cus i dont think someone would camp more than 4 min at same place .... well even if it would be absolutely live i think theese teams are high level teams who wouldnt be doing such bull**** just to win a tournament which is meant for fun  |
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PimpMyGun Admin


Posts : 1441 Join date : 2010-03-11
 | Subject: Re: Broad casting Fri Apr 23, 2010 2:29 pm | |
| ok, I agree, 3-5 min should be good |
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Johan

Posts : 40 Join date : 2010-03-14 Age : 27 Location : Belgium
 | Subject: Re: Broad casting Fri Apr 23, 2010 3:31 pm | |
| http://www.noobdude.com/television.phpon the bottom click "on demand" and u can choose 1 of the recent match reports. (ok in a gay game cause we didnt do a swat report lately.) I think we should do this in 3th place match and in final. |
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Coert Technical Departement

Posts : 19 Join date : 2010-03-13 Age : 28 Location : Netherlands
 | Subject: Re: Broad casting Fri Apr 23, 2010 8:27 pm | |
| It's not possible to have a delay of 5 minutes. It's live or after the match |
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PimpMyGun Admin


Posts : 1441 Join date : 2010-03-11
 | Subject: Re: Broad casting Fri Apr 23, 2010 8:45 pm | |
| thats bad :/ to keep fair play, it will be no possible to make it live |
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Rocky

Posts : 21 Join date : 2010-03-14 Age : 26 Location : Ulcinj
 | Subject: Re: Broad casting Fri Apr 23, 2010 11:17 pm | |
| so save it and let the people watch who want to watch it though it wont be intresting but imo the teams that reached the semi finals are pro enough to not use it as an advantage .... |
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PimpMyGun Admin


Posts : 1441 Join date : 2010-03-11
 | Subject: Re: Broad casting Fri Apr 23, 2010 11:39 pm | |
| it can bi big advantage anyway, so live transmission can not be. if you want record this, no problem for me, just I have to know before who will do that...?
Last edited by PimpMyGun on Sat Apr 24, 2010 8:10 am; edited 1 time in total |
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George

Posts : 8 Join date : 2010-03-19
 | Subject: Re: Broad casting Sat Apr 24, 2010 6:27 am | |
| Yea, It will be recorded.. so we can do multi-language commentary later. |
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PimpMyGun Admin


Posts : 1441 Join date : 2010-03-11
 | Subject: Re: Broad casting Sat Apr 24, 2010 8:11 am | |
| i need just to know who will record this...? |
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PimpMyGun Admin


Posts : 1441 Join date : 2010-03-11
 | Subject: Re: Broad casting Sat Apr 24, 2010 12:05 pm | |
| broadcast could be only via xfire, cause we noticed that there is auto delay about it.
anyway, we need someone with strong mashine and fast upload to do that and no lag server. |
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KrazyFire

Posts : 46 Join date : 2010-03-17
 | Subject: Re: Broad casting Sat Apr 24, 2010 12:36 pm | |
| i lag so cant be me  |
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Bolek

Posts : 23 Join date : 2010-03-14 Age : 27 Location : Poland
 | Subject: Re: Broad casting Sat Apr 24, 2010 1:33 pm | |
| no way with my pc  |
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George

Posts : 8 Join date : 2010-03-19
 | Subject: Re: Broad casting Sun Apr 25, 2010 7:48 am | |
| - Bolek wrote:
- no way with my pc

No way with my upload. PC is good (i think so), but this upload... |
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PimpMyGun Admin


Posts : 1441 Join date : 2010-03-11
 | Subject: Re: Broad casting Sun Apr 25, 2010 8:16 am | |
| ok, lets forget this. too late for organizing broadcast |
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NDFreddy

Posts : 50 Join date : 2010-03-14
 | Subject: Re: Broad casting Sun Apr 25, 2010 11:57 am | |
| I can take an xfire movie of final and upload it after the game.. I think thats the only solution  |
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Michal Admin


Posts : 385 Join date : 2010-03-13 Age : 35 Location : Poland
 | Subject: Re: Broad casting Sun Apr 25, 2010 12:26 pm | |
| Well Freddy it will take rly a lot of space on disc  |
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PimpMyGun Admin


Posts : 1441 Join date : 2010-03-11
 | Subject: Re: Broad casting Sun Apr 25, 2010 12:41 pm | |
| ok, ill contact freddy at xf. referee willbe Bolek and Freddy will record + 14 players max. I hope noone dont mind. |
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Spider

Posts : 70 Join date : 2010-03-14 Age : 33 Location : Czech Republic
 | Subject: Re: Broad casting Sun Apr 25, 2010 2:56 pm | |
| It is ok, but I am for to try it if it doesn't give lags, because i am afraid of it... |
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Michal Admin


Posts : 385 Join date : 2010-03-13 Age : 35 Location : Poland
 | Subject: Re: Broad casting Sun Apr 25, 2010 3:06 pm | |
| no lags, upload will be after match. |
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Spider

Posts : 70 Join date : 2010-03-14 Age : 33 Location : Czech Republic
 | Subject: Re: Broad casting Sun Apr 25, 2010 3:42 pm | |
| - Michal wrote:
- no lags, upload will be after match.
Aah sure, you are right=) |
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NDFreddy

Posts : 50 Join date : 2010-03-14
 | Subject: Re: Broad casting Mon Apr 26, 2010 11:21 am | |
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PimpMyGun Admin


Posts : 1441 Join date : 2010-03-11
 | Subject: Re: Broad casting Mon Apr 26, 2010 3:23 pm | |
| shit rapidshare - all time problems with this at local networks |
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Rocky

Posts : 21 Join date : 2010-03-14 Age : 26 Location : Ulcinj
 | Subject: Re: Broad casting Mon Apr 26, 2010 4:42 pm | |
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NDFreddy

Posts : 50 Join date : 2010-03-14
 | Subject: Re: Broad casting Mon Apr 26, 2010 5:12 pm | |
| Okay the limit of downloads is already reached Im uploading it now to Youtube the first video will be placed here soon others follow after! |
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